Wrestling the Angel
The Foundations of Mormon Thought: Cosmos, God, Humanity
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Terryl L. Givens
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In this first volume of his magisterial study of the foundations of Mormon thought and practice, Terryl L. Givens offers a sweeping account of Mormon belief from its founding to the present day. Situating the relatively new movement in the context of the Christian tradition, he reveals that Mormonism continues to change and grow. Givens shows that despite Mormonism's origins in a biblical culture strongly influenced by 19th-century Restorationist thought, which advocated a return to the Christianity of the early Church, the new movement diverges radically from the Christianity of the creeds.
Mormonism proposes its own cosmology and metaphysics, in which human identity is rooted in a premortal world as eternal as God. Mormons view mortal life as an enlightening ascent rather than a catastrophic fall, and reject traditional Christian concepts of human depravity and destiny. Popular fascination with Mormonism's social innovations, such as polygamy and communalism, and its supernatural and esoteric elements - angels, gold plates, seer stones, a New World Garden of Eden, and sacred undergarments - have long overshadowed the fact that it is the most enduring and even thriving product of the 19th century's religious upheavals and innovations.
Wrestling the Angel traces the essential contours of Mormon thought from the time of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young to the contemporary LDS church, illuminating both the seminal influence of the founding generation of Mormon thinkers and the significant developments in the church over almost 200 years. The most comprehensive account of the development of Mormon thought ever written, Wrestling the Angel will be essential reading for anyone seeking to understand the Mormon faith.
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The heart of this book is a thoughtful and inspiring look at Wesley's theology of grace and its power to transform. Included are two new chapters. 'Vision and Means' explores Wesley's mission and methods, and 'To Serve the Present Age' considers the impact and relevance of his message today. In addition, an updated reading list facilitates further study, and questions at the end of each chapter stimulate personal reflection and small group discussion.Ideal as a textbook or for personal study and reflection, this book will advance your knowledge and piety as you travel 'the way to heaven.
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Very helpful
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Understanding the Koran
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- Narrated by: Don Reed
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A quick non-technical introduction to the Koran designed to help Christians understand a hidden book revered by 1.3 billion Muslims, covering the background on its writing, a summary of its contents, a perspective on how it’s used and viewed by Muslims, a comparison of differences and similarities to the Bible, and some suggestions on how it should and should not be used in conversations with Muslims.
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Favors Christianity
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Lost Christianities
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The early Christian Church was a chaos of contending beliefs. Some groups of Christians claimed that there was not one God but two or twelve or thirty. Some believed that the world had not been created by God but by a lesser, ignorant deity. Certain sects maintained that Jesus was human but not divine, while others said he was divine but not human.
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The Early Church(es)
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- Narrated by: James Anderson Foster
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In this popular introduction to church history, now in its third edition, Mark Noll isolates key events that provide a framework for understanding the history of Christianity. The book presents Christianity as a worldwide phenomenon rather than just a Western experience. Students in academic settings and church adult education contexts will benefit from this one-semester survey of Christian history.
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Excellent, Brief Snippet’s
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By: Mark A. Noll
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For years, Christians have been asking, "If you died tonight, do you know where you would go?" It turns out that many believers have been giving the wrong answer. It is not heaven. Wright outlines the present confusion about a Christian's future hope and shows how it is deeply intertwined with how we live today. Wright asserts that Christianity's most distinctive idea is bodily resurrection, and provides a magisterial defense for a literal resurrection of Jesus. Wright then explores our expectation of "new heavens and a new earth".
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A valuable yet partial lens for viewing mission
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By: N. T. Wright
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In a book that took eight years to research and write, leading Bible scholar Bart D. Ehrman explores how an apocalyptic prophet from the backwaters of rural Galilee crucified for crimes against the state came to be thought of as equal with the one God Almighty Creator of all things. Ehrman sketches Jesus's transformation from a human prophet to the Son of God exalted to divine status at his resurrection. Only when some of Jesus's followers had visions of him after his death - alive again - did anyone come to think that he, the prophet from Galilee, had become God.
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Wishing for a bit more meat on the bones
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AfterLife
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In AfterLife, Hank Hanegraaff, one of the most remarkable theological minds of our time, explains how life in the present intersects with life after life and, ultimately, life after life after life. With laser-sharp clarity, this surprisingly insightful audiobook demonstrates that death is not the end - in fact, it’s just the beginning. AfterLife will forever change the way you view your eternal destiny!
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hank is awesome!
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The Puritans, as a body, have done more to elevate the national character than any class of Englishmen that ever lived. Ardent lovers of civil liberty, and ready to die in its defense - mighty at the council board, and no less mighty in the battlefield - feared abroad throughout Europe, and invincible at home while united - great with their pens, and no less great with their swords - fearing God very much, and fearing men very little - they were a generation of men who have never received from their country the honor that they deserve.
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Great book!
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Who mixes fact with fiction?
- By 3allvalve on 12-28-17
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The success of books such as Elaine Pagels's Gnostic Gospels and Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code proves beyond a doubt that there is a tremendous thirst today for finding the hidden truths of Christianity - truths that may have been lost or buried by institutional religion over the last two millennia. In Forbidden Faith, Richard Smoley narrates a popular history of one such truth, the ancient esoteric religion of gnosticism, which flourished between the first and fourth centuries AD, but whose legacy remains even today, having survived secretly throughout the ages.
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Excellent start to finish
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Great Book: Terrible Narrator
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Since the Protestant Reformation of the 16th century, sola fide has been the defining doctrine of evangelical Christianity - and the way a person is justified the defining difference between Roman Catholics and evangelicals. In this audio, R. C. Sproul examines what justification is according to God's Word, compares the Roman Catholic and evangelical stances on this core doctrine, and discusses the relationship of faith and works - all to show why "by faith alone" is so essential.
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Good contrast of the roman church and the evangelical
- By HJLII on 05-01-24
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- Steven J Retz
- 08-24-20
great research on ideas before the restoration
although I'm no longer LDS, I still believe in the restoration and the BoM, so we have some different beliefs about JS and what I believe he actually taught, as I bring out some here https://seekingyhwh.com/resources/lds/ . But I think you did a fantastic job at researching what others believed before the restoration showing these ideas and beliefs are not new.
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- Greg
- 12-03-20
Good overview of LDS doctrine
Doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in context of history and theology. Some of the author's assumptions, conclusions and suggestions are, well, his theories - could be true, but necessarily. But most of the text are just facts. Very valuable and enjoyable to listen to (great voice!).
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- Tyler
- 03-17-15
A detailed scholarly study of Mormon thought
This is an excellent, in depth study of the foundations of Mormon thought, and how the doctrines of the church have evolved over time. It is extremely detailed and requires a decent amount of effort on the part of the listener, but it is worth the effort to more fully understand the material presented.
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- Sci-Fi Fan
- 05-25-15
Great Overview of Mormon Theology
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This was the best book on Mormon theology I've ever read. By providing a historical overview for each topic, Givens avoids the problem of merely providing his personal views on Mormon theology. This book has enough depth to be interesting for those already familiar with Mormonism, but I believe he has also succeeded at creating an overview that is accessible for the novice.
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- Sher from Provo
- 04-30-16
Most Interesting!
I found this, like Givens' other books, to be incredibly thought provoking. Being LDS myself, I was not always comfortable with the things he had to say, but I am very grateful for the straight forward way he writes and researches. No sugar coating here. No excuse making or spinning, just the facts, ma'am. In the end, even the things that made me squirm seemed understandable, which understanding is exactly what I was seeking when I chose this book. Now I have the option of pondering so many questions I had before and which have arisen because of this book. I feel that I have a firmer base on which to form or reform my opinions. After all, it is all about choice.
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- John Galt
- 05-12-21
Great Resource for Mormon Theology and Philosophy
My respect for the objective work of Terryl Givens grows after this work! It is an indispensable resource for any library if you want great history and insights into LDS theology and philosophy. Givens does a great job (as always) explaining and being open with the history that makes up important foundational elements of the LDS Church's doctrinal underpinnings.
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- Jim
- 09-19-15
excellent effort to validate a chaotic theology
a very well written book , Terryl uses his vast knowledge and insight into all things Mormon to try and link together some of the more vague and chaotic aspects of Mormonism, no small feat given the often seemingly incoherent and discordinated nature of both the original prophecies and their subsequent evolutions into Mormon canonical form.
I really appreciated Givens access to historical literature concerning the various aspects of his religion, these sources are invaluable when when it comes to fleshing out the lines of thought that went into shaping the theology. This is important when it comes to understanding the difference between it's parent religion Christianity and its own ideas, especially since Mormonism prefers to hold on to many of the traditional words though significantly altering the definitions.
I would suggest this book for anyone who believes that Mormonism is essentially the same as Christianity...on either side of that equation, would even suggest this as a must read for pastors and missionaries who operate in heavily LDS influenced locals. A lot of previously written Christian literature written on Mormonism is either plain wrong or is right for the wrong reasons. it shows a deeper respect for both groups if we can show well researched understand of mutual conclusions.
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- Jason Swigert
- 01-23-17
Required reading for anyone desiring to understand Mormonism, including lifelong members of the faith.
This is a marvelous synthesis of key ideas in the Mormon faith and a comparison with other major religions and theological ideas. I will listen to this multiple times.
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- Gary
- 11-22-18
Ah, so that's what Mormons believe!
I wish I could find the equivalent to this book for all religions. It is an inside look at what an expert thinks their own religion's philosophical and theological ontological foundations consist of.
I'm an outsider looking in and this book told me what they believe and why they believe what they do. The historical context that surrounds their beliefs and the defense going back to Paul, or Augustine or other early church fathers even (considered slightly heretical by some) Pelagius and Origen. The author was sensitive to criticism for the church being accused of 'Pelagiansism' but 'most Romantics were Pelagians' for a reason.
William Blake (I think it's safe to call him a Romantic) was mentioned surprisingly many times within this book. Spinoza was too. I had not realized the connections to them and the Mormon Church. The Universalist and Unitarian seemed to pop up frequently. The author said that 'Universalist believe that God is too good to damn humans and the Unitarians believe humans are too good to be damned'. Overall, the Mormons tend toward that way of thinking too.
There are a whole lot of areas where the Mormons seem to disagree with most other religions and this book does an excellent job of explaining what the Mormon's believe in and why. Mormon's don't have the trinity, all is material (albeit tiny material as Blake would say), preexistence of souls, after death we become God like, marriage in heaven and with family, and just as many other interesting things. Now, I can understand what the Mormons believe in their own terms.
The author said something about gender is binary and that our preexistence can change that but in the afterlife our roles will be well defined. The author also latter said 'that most experts think gender is a social construct'. I have no idea why he would say that. I would say that most experts think people are born gay, or straight, or bi, or transgender, or in other words that God made us who we are in his own image. The author mentioned that the Boy Scouts are the exemplars for structure with in well formed communities. The author couldn't mention that the Mormons have divested themselves from association with the Boy Scouts of America since the Mormons instituted that policy after this book was published because the BSA now allow gays to be troop leaders. Also, the author did not tell me why the Mormons have been actively opposed to equality in marriage and were so vigorously in support of California's Proposition 8 (hate) which was against equality in marriage.
I guess I really don't care how great a religion's ontological foundational beliefs are, if they discriminate against somebody because they are born that way I can reject it prima facie. To me, it would be equivalent to saying if someone was manic depressive, or schizophrenic, or autistic, or had curly hair they just don't deserve equality and don't deserve God's love or the full unconditional support of the Church.
I understand the author was explaining his religion on his own terms and did an excellent job at that. I just felt he owed me a clear explanation on how he can justify inequality based on how God created us in his own image.
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- Kris
- 11-24-16
A comprehensive read
As a practicing Mormon, I am always looking for ways to expand my knowledge and understanding of the gospel. The fault to many books about the LDS faith is they are most often one sided, either attempting to destroy faith or a repetition of the basics. This was an amazing unbiased look at all aspects of Mormon beliefs. An opportunity not to question your faith but to challenge your understanding. A great read. I wish Audible would provide more books like this.
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